I am new to this forum but a dedicated viewer of Christian Truthers and Parable of the Vineyard. Both are excellent channels which have grown my faith and understanding in ways I could never really repay them for.
Shalom and love to all of you, in the name of our Lord Yahushua.
Now, most of us in this forum have probably been involved with other Christians about whether Torah is for today or not. It's an age old battle that we can expect it to be waged until His return. We all know this and have been frustrated by it a number of times, I'm sure.
The rebuttals to our point of view are pretty much 100% of the time from the letters of Paul.
Therefore, I have taken to starting out the conversation by saying the following - "We know that Paul's letters can be easily misinterpreted, as Peter warns in 2 Peter 3:14-18. Therefore, let's both leave his letters aside for now and instead refer to the remaining books 52 books of the Bible to prove our point. Because such a dramatic change to the faith would be clearly prophesied and witnessed throughout the Word, surely not just in a few scattered sentences in Paul's letters"...
At this, the conversation generally stops pretty quickly! Eventually after struggling, they try to work their way back to Paul. But I interject at the first opportunity saying "Let's leave Paul aside for now, as either you or I may have misinterpreted him - I can say he means this and you can say he means that. So instead let's just go with the remaining 52 books". I simply refuse to engage debating Paul and this becomes a real barrier for the opposition and a clear demonstration of the point Peter was making.
Anyway, herein lies the point of my post. The whole debate of whether "is Torah for today or not" starts at Paul, every time. Now, surely Yahweh knew that this would be the case - foreseeing such a serious thing would be abundantly clear for him. So what can we say about this...
Is it possible that Paul is a deliberate stumbling block for those entering the Kingdom? (Don't get me wrong, I'm not suggesting that he is THE stumbling block as mentioned in Scripture, but A stumbling block.)
Paul's writes with many presuppositions of the reader and plays with multiple arcs of Scripture exposition, entwining them together like strands of a rope to make his point. It's masterful. His style is so complicated, yet simple and so specific, yet ambiguous. His letters are written in such an incredibly designed way that it can mean one thing to one man, and something else to another - depending on the state of their heart.
What I mean is that if someone approaches Paul's letters with a love for Torah and a heart to serve the Father, they will come away with his instructions that are congruent with the rest of the Bible. But if someone approaches his letters with wilful ignorance of the Torah and heart for self, they will come away with validation Scriptures of their values, even if it's incongruent with the rest of the Bible.
It's like Paul letters are a fork in the road for the path of every believer, splitting into two choices. Service or Rest. The believer's heart attitude towards Yahweh and His Torah will naturally dictate this path.
Now, again, Yahweh must have foreseen this severe division Paul would cause and, whilst Paul isn't in the wrong with anything he says, it's very easy to interpret him. So maybe his masterful ambiguity was deliberate (from the Spirit and not from Paul). Because it's an ingenious way to separate those who call themselves disciples - with a trial of interpretation which reveals your hidden motives. As those who are against the Torah and do not truly fear Yahweh will have all the Scriptures they want to solidify them in their error. Surely this is what Peter meant.
In conclusion my theory is this: Paul is a type of deliberate stumbling block for believers to, ingeniously, subtly cut through the Body and reveal their motives and heart. Therefore, we cannot reasonably debate with others using Paul - as they will continue to see what they want and the argument will go on forever. However, if we can take their spotlight off of Paul and focus it on the words of the prophets, the Messiah and the Father, there is no longer any ambiguity to hide behind. They will either start to see Paul in a new light, search the Scriptures for ways to backup their "Pauline Theology", or openly admit (inadvertently) that they follow Paul. Either way, praise Yah - the debate has broken out of the endless cycle!
Anyway, I hope this makes sense to someone. Perhaps it may give someone some new directions to try in their next debate with an anti-Torah/anti-Sabbath believer!
Thank you for reading my ramblings!
Love & Shalom to you all.
Post-script random thought (that shouldn't be taken seriously): I wonder if this is part of what the Lord meant by saying "I will show him how much he must suffer for my name sake". Because just as he was misinterpreting the motives, hearts and words of the early Natsarim, now it seems that it has happened with him. I don't know, perhaps that's taking it too far...