Through our search for truth, my wife and I ended up coming across Justin and Adam's channels. We learned a lot from them and were both relieved that Justin woke up to Paul as we had. We were excited to see that he was willing to give up subscribers for truth as well he should. YHWH first in all things. Adam, though, seemed to choose a different path. The longer we tuned in the more questionable he became. And then his latest video outright attacking Justin and publicly betraying things he may have said in confidence was the last straw for us, just as it was with Skiba.
Justin, if you read this, please just know that there are others of us out there that have committed to the truth of YHWH just as you have. We are a minority for sure, but haven't all His people always been? There are all types of forms of persecution that refine us. The path is narrow - be careful not to let others push you off. If you ever decide to shake off and ignore those with blinders on we would love to include your thoughts and research in our journey for the same once more. There are so few of us. If not, shalom and best wishes to you and your family and shalom to all those that still wish the same.
I am struggling to listen to that Video with Adam and Rob. I need to listen to it, just to get to know them better and deside. But I wonder all the time: why do they say Justin is denying Yeshua? I have only heard him say that he believes the Torah is trustworthy and thats all he us comfortable to share at this point. Did he say Yeshua is false? I have not heard that out of his mouth. I for sure questioned much of what we have, and they might have tempered with Jesus more than just Paul.... as frustrating as it is that we don’t have absolut certainty about what is true and what is corrupted: God reveals himself if we ask him. Thats how we know and thats beyond any discussion. He might reveal himself in dreams, or in understanding things suddenly or in clouds. He has his ways. And as long as Justin sticks with Torah: The „Old Testament“ testifies of our Savior. I too believe in many ways this is the most reliable source. It is better we come back to God our Father helpless with a humble heart than to think we know all truth. Oh no, we have to rely on God more than on Men and we should always have in mind that he is our sole teacher, nit doctrine, not denomination, not written words.... I sure hope we could just go back in time to hear it out of Yeshuas words or one of the 12 witnesses, the true apostles. Bit thats where our patients is, right? I hope we hear more from Justin and he stays strong and close to God!
Hmm yes...we gave up on Skiba back in Paul days too. It seems both Adam and Justin need to stay offline till things are dealt with. Not overly interested in listening to anything that's not about Yah at the moment so that throws Justin out. There is nothing wrong with questioning everything and if you can't bring yourself to do that you got to wonder why you're so afraid to which makes one wonder why Adam won't go deeper. (Paul's letters are attached to that N.T. and no doubt there's things in the O.T. that aren't legit too) There wasn't a lot of logic to Adam's current decision on Paul. I hope they both are healed and get back up because they have both been incredible encouragement on our journey. (Selfish reasons of course 😜)
Oooh... just saw Adam's recant. How sad. If tomorrow I was to face Yah and my salvation all hangs on whether I believe without a doubt that the Word came in the flesh then yes, I am doomed. I want to be sure of every single thing. So far the Messiah is the only thing I haven't thrown out of all my life's indoctrination.
Kathrin, I haven't heard Justin say that he denies Messiah. I think Adam wrongfully called him out publicly for questioning things against his own doctrinal beliefs and what he defends (yet I think very poorly and offensively). For instance he uses the book of John a lot which is highly questionable with just a little research. It seems evident that it was NOT the apostle John that wrote it at all. This book is the primary quoted source for the doctrinal belief that "Jesus" is the "Word," the trinitarian concept (indeed his deification), the rapture, etc. Just search for differences between John and the synoptic gospels or something to that effect. There are christian sites proudly pointing them out as "proof" that Jesus is God.
Rachel, I feel much the same way. It is so difficult to figure out just how much has been tampered with and in fact how much was entirely falsified. We (my wife and I) at this point disregard all writings of Paul and the book of John. Other NT books we may question their validity in part or in whole. Like the beginning of Revelation starts out with the same Yeshua is the Word talk as in John, but the rest of it we haven't found obvious contradictions. What we'd really love to see is the Tanak unquestionably back up the Messiah. We still have a LOT of research to this end. If anyone has definitive prophetic scripture NOT found in the NT please do share. I was hoping that's what Adam would show. So far we've come across many that only take scripture out of context and when you read the pointed out prophecy in whole it does not appear to be talking about Messiah at all.
I am BY NO MEANS ready to deny Yeshua as Messiah but through all the deception we MUST prove out everything to the best of our abilities. If we harden our hearts to seeking out Yah's truth we may be lost already. I think this is all a test. Do we follow man and his doctrine or do we seek out our Father? We must all pray and ask for Him to reveal His truth to us and have the patience and perseverance to seek it out. Likely for anyone on this site you are all already doing just that. I do not fear what Yah might reveal to me next. Whatever it might be I am so excited that He loves us enough to keep bringing us closer to Him.
These are words I live by: There is but one truth, and His name is YHWH.
Yes! Fully agree! It doesn't seem to make sense for the RCC to invent a Torah keeping Messiah then twist Him into a Torahless one. I think there is much information we are missing and I'm sure if Yah wanted to hold that against us, He'd first give us the means to figure it out. I found the book of A'dam interesting in regards to what and why Yahusha would have had to do what He did, but there are still so many holes in the information we have.
What's RCC?
Also, Adam put evidence on his website about Justin denying the Messiah and other things. Although it seemed like private messages between each other. Not very nice of Adam to post their private chats.
Roman Catholic Church. Yes, messaging can be made to look like anything you want it to, I'd rather hear it straight up from him myself. Regardless, Adam is not the keeper of his soul so no idea why he gets to play opinion police especially when he is not even honestly addressing the issues. Makes me wonder why... I am grateful for both of their efforts and encouragement over the years but might be time to keep screens off and just soak in Yah. It's all seeming like an unnecessary distraction. Bring on the day we have more answers then questions! I really believe Yah wants us this way now though. Keep us humble and mouldable instead of letting the answers puff us up with pride. He just wants our honest desire for His Ways not our own.
So, it is interesting to read that he really does not deny the Messiah. In the comments of his new Video!
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I totally agree with him on everything he said!